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Yep. It's gotten bad enough that people will actually take a longer period of incarceration if it doesn't involve probation afterward. And good luck finding an employer who will hire a felon. Hell, good luck finding a landlord who will rent to you.


Landlord here. I won't rent to violent felons (murder, sexual assault, etc.) strictly as a liability issue. But I consider it an ethical and moral obligation to not discriminate against people convicted of crimes that don't reasonably make them a threat to the neighbors of my properties.

I firmly believe that one of big drivers of recidivism is housing discrimination based on the mere presence of a criminal record.

EDIT: cleaned up a bad sentence


Thank you for being a decent person.


I really appreciate that, thanks


It really is that bad. I would've gladly taken 90 days in county jail vs. years of probation for a first offense misdemeanor.

On the flip side, my county's jail offers yoga and fresh fruit daily.




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