Women are highly biased by attractiveness, and as a man, I really care about more than just physical appearance in a woman. So, yeah, you're incorrectly attacking men.
I am not sure what "women are highly biased by attractiveness" means. Everyone is highly biased by attractiveness by definition of attractiveness.
Also it is truism that, as a man, you care more than JUST physical appearance in a woman. And you, personally, might even not care about looks at all -- though you'd be quite rare in that case.
I am talking about the overall majority of men and women and what makes them attracted and at what time. There have been studies done on this and it's pretty clear: women's biological appearance plays a larger role for men to be sexually attracted, than a man's biological appearance. (I say biological because obviously if you consider clothes, cars, cologne, hairstyle etc. to be part of the equation then those factors matter, but they can be manipulated and are related more to lifestyle than biology.)
Men are more visually stimulated. It's a fact that's been shown over and over. I did not say men are JUST interested in that. I said that in most societies, men put more work up front -- witness how many men devote countless hours to learning pickup techniques and tricks, or getting a great car, or working their ass off to have money to take women out. Meanwhile, women start putting in more effort than the guy once they have invested in the relationship, and it's probably due to the nesting instinct / biological clock. They put a lot of biological investment into having kids, more than men. And so forth.
I am not "attacking men". You are being knee-jerk reactionary.
> Meanwhile, women start putting in more effort than the guy once they have invested in the relationship, and it's probably due to the nesting instinct / biological clock.
I am not sure where you are getting this from. I just want to point out that existing data about who iniatiates divorces and break-ups would seem to contradict what you're saying.
According to a study published in the American Law and
Economics Review, women have filed slightly more than
two-thirds of divorce cases in the United States.[80]
There is some variation among states, and the numbers
have also varied over time, with about 60% of filings
by women in most of the 19th century, and over 70% by
women in some states just after no-fault divorce was
introduced, according to the paper. Evidence is given
that among college-educated couples, the percentage of
divorces initiated by women is approximately 90%.
That is once again a straw man. Showing that women are more likely to file for divorce doesn't mean they didn't get married in the first place. I am talking about the period after people have been going out for a while, and before the marriage, where many women are saying, "where do you see all this going" or hoping he'd propose. This article also talks about people BEFORE they are getting married, not talking about how they get divorced. That is the subject.
Women have a lot more invested in sex and children than men do. And therefore, they are looking to have a stable situation to have a family more than men are.
The person who "has more invested" in something, is the person who values it more. "Having more invested" is a particular idiom in English.
What you are talking about is "sunk cost."
So, in a given relationship, the man or the woman could value the children more.
In a given relationship, the man or the woman could value sex more.
It's not true that all men care less about (i.e., value less) their children, which is what you said, though I don't believe you meant it. That's why I said your statement was biased against men.
I don't see how the generalization "women are more invested in sex" in either your interpretation of that phrase, or mine, would be correct.
It's not as easy, but if you never wanted to have that baby you can give it up the day it's born, before any real bonding happens.
Is it your argument that women having a stronger attachment to a newborn is a bias against them? Because I was only trying to argue that there was less bias than EGreg said. If she decides she wants the baby then it doesn't seem like a negative to me.
Edit: Oh, I'm a dumbass. I didn't make it clear that the 'giving up the child' was only in response to the pregnancy scenario. That's because once both parents are raising the kid, after a breakup both or either of them would continue raising it.
