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How would you react if told that your primary mode of transportation is causing a big increase in deaths? Isn't that a more relevant question?


Complete indifference.

That's the same class of argument as telling people they shouldn't use Signal because criminals use Signal.


I think there is a difference here. Signal qua signal isn't dangerous. Its purely what one does with it that might constitute a criminal act. In particular, using signal is unlikely to cause problems accidentally.

Driving a giant truck for no good reason entails a certain risk because of both the inevitability of human error (on the part of the driver but also others) and basic physics.

Furthermore, one might argue that the right to private communication is more important than the marginal improvement in life that you get from driving a big car for no particular reason.

Like consider a person who wants to drive a car filled with TNT. By its very nature this is a danger to others regardless of the intent of the driver or other drivers. Society might be argued to have an interest in regulating such behavior. I think there is a good case to be made that unnecessarily large vehicles differ in degree only from the TNT case, but differ categorically from using signal.

I'm not making the case that the differences justify banning big cars, but there are differences between the two situations.


It is nothing like that argument and I think you know that.


Complete indifference to a big increase in deaths?


Complete indifference to the implication that I am in some way responsible for crimes committed by others just because I use a similar tool.


"How would you react if told that your primary mode of transportation is causing a big increase in deaths?"

I'd ask to see the data since TFA shows only a 7.5% increase due to size. The rest of the 75% increase is due to other factors.

Edit: why disagee, is my data wrong?


Is that not a significant enough number in and of itself?! Like it even begs the question, how were they allowed to go onto the roads in the first place, when it's not even a hard to reach consequence.


200 out of 350M is a small number. There are plenty other things we could address that makes a bigger impact. The bigger factor is pedestrian alcohol consumption, but nobody wants to address that.


"only" a 7% increase in deaths


200 out of 350M is a small number. There are plenty other things we could address that makes a bigger impact. The bigger factor is pedestrian alcohol consumption, but nobody wants to address that.




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