Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

Oh don't get me wrong, they are both unacceptable and I haven't and don't want to see the symbol tweet. I personally find words more impactful, revealing of intent and suggesting action than symbols. I say arguable because I don't which was worse, or if it's a worthy discussion, but the deathcon tweet is enough for me to see an unwell/dangerous person that needs a ban just to save them from themselves let alone anyone else.


Defcon levels have to do with defense not attack.


Well, it's still mobilizing the army. Plus, "death con".


That isn't true in common parlance.


It literally stands for defense readiness condition


And yet humans aren't computers, and the meaning of phrases in popular culture isn't always determined by strict literal definition.

Most people would interpret the phrase "I’m a bit sleepy tonight but when I wake up I’m going (def) con 3 On JEWISH PEOPLE" to mean preparing to go to war or enter into conflict against, not preparing to defend against an attack from, jewish people.


Defense against the jews which implies they act as a group to attack.


No it doesn't. Defense implies that you are planning to be attacked. Regardless though, it is free speech because the word can mean a lot of things. There are countless videos of Democrats like Pelosi saying we are going to "beat" Republicans. I guess those Democrats should be banned from national television for inciting violence.


"I'm going to beat them in a race"? The word is commonly used to mean win a competition and in fact I'd argue it's use meaning physical violence is rarer.

Also being a republican (politican) is a choice and therefore valid to be a target of hatred. People aren't born Republican , however bring Jewish is considered both an ethnic group and religion. This is the key to why it's acceptable to attack a political group verus an ethnic group.

Jews have different views, they don't act as one group, they don't have a hierarchy like republicans, nor don't put out group statements.


Beat is just the tip. There are countless videos of Democrat leaders saying people has to fight, that they're at war, etc. Kanye wasn't telling everyone to go Death (DEF) CON 3 on the Jews, he was saying he was. He could have literally said he hoped that people would die and it still isn't isn't inciting violence according to the law. Conservatives are good at that, where they are constantly advocating for the murder of trans people which according to Musk is okay cause I still see it frequently from many of the right-wing people he is now associating with and their followers. While I don't agree with his statement, it is far from inciting violence and doesn't break any laws in the US.


yes but we're talking about deathcon levels, which are an entirely different thing!




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: