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Ruby is missing entirely in the [1] Salary and experience by language.

156 People responded were programming with Crystal professionally. A language that is still very very young.

Even ignoring Node.Js, there are 3x [2] more Django developers than Rails.

If people thinks Phoenix is young or niche, it has half of Rails professional usage in this survey.

Django's current position should be what Rails tries to achieve. 15% usage is enough for a market sustainable position.

Some Google developer told me Fresh Grad or Junior Software Engineers gets $200K Total Comp per year. That is equal to the median salary of Senior Executive (C-Suite, VP, etc.) in the US. When developers with 5 - 10 years of experience are calling for a "fair" $400K Total Compensation on Twitter. Someone on HN once said Google Senior SWE make up to $700K. The salary gap within the industry is huge.

[1] https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#section-salary-salary-...

[2] https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#section-most-popular-t...



The gap is insane even between the FAANGs, someone got an offer at $450 total comp (inc grants over five years) at one and the other couldn't even break 225/yr total. Something is gonna have to give.


> Something is gonna have to give.

Why? The work product of a senior engineer (on average) is worth some multiple of the TC or the company wouldn't be paying it.

Tom Cruise makes way more than the director or the studio execs too. Because he sells tickets/rentals that make the movie more profitable. Same thing.


Is important to reflect on compensation gaps among top 10 companies in the US over time and the positions that they valued most (whether fair to value them that way or not). That will tell the story of if there is anything to give.


I was trying to look really hard in the salary for graph for Ruby and couldn't find it, would love to know where it landed. Middle to slightly high is my guess.


Ruby is hidden behind Elixir - 12 years / $94644 with 2732 responses




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