Yeah I have the same impression. Other languages don't seem to have the same drama issues. Rust came out of Mozilla, which is super steeped in SF social justice culture (see the antics of their CEO). It seems like that culture was carried into Rust.
> Mozilla, which is super steeped in SF social justice culture (see the antics of their CEO)
Who do you mean? The only Mozilla CEO I can remember being involved in any controversy was Brendan Eich, and that controversy was over his funding a campaign against gay marriage. I can hardly imagine calling that 'social justice culture'. (I'm hoping this comment doesn't summon him, like the last time I mentioned him on here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28789197)
Mitchell Baker has repeatedly embarrassed Mozilla and failed in almost every way a CEO can fail. She is very obviously uninterested in Firefox and sees it just as a way to further her own influence amongst the Washington set she wishes she was really a part of. Mozilla not only has a "social justice" culture but openly talks about it all the time: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/leadership/mozilla-racia...
"We granted 33% of Mozilla Foundation funds to black-led tech and social justice initiatives. Unfortunately, we fell short of our 40% target."
The Mozilla Foundation is meant to be funding Firefox. That is its purpose. Instead it is using money raised for that purpose to perpetuate SJW culture and overt racism against white people.
The type of insidious and dishonourable mind games the Rust moderation team are playing here is exactly the sort of thing I've come to expect from Mozilla-associated projects. The apologetics for it in this thread are just wrong. My weapon of choice is Kotlin, made by Russians. Guess what: there's no moderation team, the community is fine and in the 10 years the project has existed I recall exactly zero community related dramas. None. Zero. Nada. This sort of thing isn't normal for programming languages and people trying to claim it is are wrong: it's normal for languages controlled by a very specific kind of person in a very specific region and subculture of America.
In contrast, Brendan Eich kept his politics private and actually cared about Firefox as a product and technology.
Ah, I'm sorry, I hadn't heard of this. I don't necessarily agree with your political opinions, but I agree that it feels inappropriate to spend Mozilla Foundation funds (which I gather are 98% donated money) on anything other than the Mozilla projects which people obviously expect their money to go to.
Fair enough, I didn't mean to be too nasty. He has a right to his opinions, even if I consider them by turns a menace to society (in the vax case) and not terribly enlightened (in the gay marriage case, considering I'm gay myself). And I obviously respect the guy tremendously for his life's work and contributions to the world, which are far more than my own.
I was just looking at it through a slightly different frame since he's a (relatively) public figure. It's one thing to tag your Facebook acquaintance in a post and have them respond, it's another to make an offhand, slightly pejorative reference to Beyoncé and then see that Beyoncé herself sent you an angry reply. It's certainly his right, but it's a bit unexpected, and I don't think 'summon' was a particularly bad word for it.
But I suppose this is a tech forum, and Eich is not Beyoncé, so it's a bit hazy.
