Just use any product going all in on AI hype. In 5 minutes you will see annoying bugs, server is down, non-sensical press releases, confusing UI. This is GitHub, this is Cursor, this is Anthropic, this is Google, this is all of them.
Including most of vide coded apps one sees, even from people who they'd trust before.
Anecdotal example, I downloaded a new alerting app recently from an indie dev who had a small following back in the day in iOS space. It asked for a subscription, like $20/year.
I thought, let me try this the (final version, from Mac App Store) app first. Well, it's a barely-there vibecoded shit. There's a bare-bones list, everything looks like my nephew designed it, the macOS "app" is a iPhone-size view of the iOS one, it has a bug that if you click on it it opens multiple duplicates of the same list view for no reason that you have to manually close, and in general it barely works.
Not to mention if their tools were so clearly useful they wouldn’t spend so much time making UI updates designed to force, trick, or confuse me into using their tool when it wasn’t my intention. SaaS companies with assistant integrations are the worst about this (looking at you, HubSpot)
Agreed. I think LLMs are best used as pair programmers or typists for users who already know what they’re doing. Or as tutors for users who want to learn.
Vibe coding is mostly garbage. But it can be useful for creating instant, disposable prototypes to investigate an idea or design direction.
You make 10 commits over the weekend once a month for your fun side project, they won't police it (my assumption they can't and won't).
Your slop machines are running day and night, pushing hundreds of commits a day, day and night... You will get on their radar, take a look, then determine "yeah, this person can go somewhere else".
Exactly; being replaced is inevitable, the machines are going to end up more intelligent than us. At some point in the near to moderate future, selling the output of your brain is no longer going to be economically viable. I hope we'll figure out some equitable society before that, but I'm not going to bet on it, so I'll do what I can to be on the side of the winners.
I don’t think they’re silly, though I don’t think it’s right to vilify the end users just because the people who’ve created the technology are criminals and the technology has lots of bad effects overall. Do you think it’s silly if these people protest the technology without vilifying people who choose to use it?
"Nobody should use nail guns! It's against the true carpenter ethos."
Nobody is spazzing out about Makita because they produce drill drivers and people can't built things with a plane and a manual screw driver. I think it's all silly.
But Makita isn't selling machines that can decide how to build the house, and then go do it. AI tools are a mind and mechanism. They're a full replacement for the human, especially in the software space.
I think we're genuinely not far from taking end user tickets and turning them into requirements and working code autonomously.
The only remaining work for us monkeys is manual testing and verification that everything is actually working as desired.
Exactly, that's what I'm saying. Humans aren't needed, and we can drop them from the economy. Hopefully after we figure out some sort of utopia, but probably not -- so I'm doing what I can to avoid the permanent underclass that gets run over by AI.
I’m sure there were peasants in feudal times who escaped the permanent underclass by joining some army, only to get slaughtered in a pointless battle. Even if there’s some underclass society is going to keep evolving and evolving. I don’t think anybody alive today knows what the future looks like.
Wanting to leave is not the same as actually leaving. I can imagine small teams leaving because moving a 10-30 member team is easy. If you have a dev team with 500 members and the team has been on GitHub for 10 years, you will just take it because migrating is just a PITA.
> If you have a dev team with 500 members and the team has been on GitHub for 10 years
This so closely describes my company. We’re so fed up with GHA that we’re charting an off ramp. It’s been happening in the background for a few months already but whenever there is a major outage I swear we add one more person to effort.
Migrating sucks but so does having 500 engineers who can’t do any coding work for a day every {month,week}
I think I was imprecise in my last message. When GitHub actions has an outage, engineers at my company can and do still write code. No one can merge though and we aren’t able to deploy (like we normally do) so we very quickly get a huge backlog of PRs that need to be tested / reviewed etc. People generally just pivot towards reviewing code at this point (or doing other non coding work)
When GH has an outage like yesterday, we cant even formally review code. Sure, people could pull others branches and read them and discuss in chat but a dedicated tool for distributed code review is pretty important for most teams. It wasn’t that long ago we were a small company and GH’s reliability wasn’t such a nightmare so using it for what it offers made a lot of sense for the business.
I don’t think a significant percent of real Bluesky users actually care.
Having a follow button on the screenshot brings nothing and a logo is helpful when sharing (“hey it’s not twitter, I know it looks like it but it’s bluesky”) and looks subtle.
It’s just it’s a forum so people say things for discussions sake and get outraged by anything that a platform they don’t like is doing.
> When the pissed off stakeholders called a meeting to ask what was going on he didn’t show up and sent his junior engineer to answer questions and take the blame.
He doesn’t have 25 years of management experience for nothing, that’s a crafty vet move!
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Similar for me but I actually like podcasts in the car for this reason. Listening to podcasts sometimes triggers me thinking about issues I care about. When I realize that I’m no longer following the podcast, I just turn it off and let my thoughts go wild.
And even ignoring the token costs, that is just not true.
Sure, for some cases, the cost is going down. I and others on my team "one-shotted" impressive features in an hour of agent work that would have taken humans probably a month if done completely manually.
I've also seen agents going in circles for an hour on a fix that would have taken even a junior 3 minutes to get right (after it was struggling for 10 minutes, I wanted to see if it can ever get it right as an experiment).
And when taking a look at the whole organization, orgs still just aren't really shipping that much more quality features to their users as the impressive one-shot demos would make you think.
Nor was product quality the goal. Principal agent problems abound. The large org's behavior follows the thousandfold incentive gradients of the individual employees in their own career, CV building, promotion paths, budget allocation, etc.
