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i disagree. they ignored all the main points in apple's argument. a "This is why Flash is worthwhile" response is better than a "Well, at least we'll be on android."


Agreed. If I'm coding a mobile version of my website and I can do it in flash and support 50% of smartphones or do it in HTML5, CSS, and Javascript and support 100% of smartphones which one am I going to pick...

It's a pretty weak retort by Adobe.


If you're coding any version of your website, I would hope Flash wouldn't be your first choice.

I think it's safe to generalize that most people (as in "end users") only care about Flash in the context of video and games.


Empirically, it often is, in many cases.


I disagree... Apple's argument is really poor and arguing against it would be difficult for this reason, any thorough response would probably look defamatory. Its a lot easier to just treat it with the contempt it deserves.

For example, it contains intrinsically weak arguments. e.g. the section headed "Fifth, there's Touch" is equally applicable to HTML5 and infact most of the rest of the internet technologies. If you can fix "Touch" well enough for HTML5 then you must be able to fix it well enough for Flash, the requirements are identical.

The h.264/battery life argument is similarly weak in that it can be turned against almost any video codec, suggesting that h.264 is some kind of silver bullet "optimal" solution, which it most certainly is not. It also closes the doors to open solutions and user choices of codec - what if I want to host video myself and don't want to waste resources and money on h.264?

The layers argument is good, but unfortunately in this context it is extremely weak - Apple love adding their own layers. Look how many layers there are in OS X... should Cocoa be ditched just because its an extra layer? It provides similar functionality to Flash of "making something hard, easier".

The open argument is pretty irrelevant to whether Flash is useful or not, but I actually like it... my traditional reason for disliking Adobe has been PDF and Flash and the way they have degraded the internet, although that has as much to do with bad use as it does with being proprietary formats.

The remaining arguments are the "full web" and "security" arguments, both of which are valid although I am distracted midway through the "full web" argument by this blatant lie - "There are more games and entertainment titles available for iPhone, iPod and iPad than for any other platform in the world.". Maybe he means you can buy more titles - that would be almost believable...

The security argument is great but I'd be careful of making too much of it - iPhone is secure by obscurity and I suspect Flash is such a "security problem" because it is so heavily used. You can compare Safari and IE in the same way, IE is much, much, MUCH, more secure - but to a pretty good approximation, nobody uses Safari - still IE gets a worse image for security because so many people are using it that its 1) a worthwhile target 2) got a large enough user base that complaints come in significant volumes.

Did any of that sound remotely good?


I was talking to one of my professors that teaches Flash/ActionScript at the University I just graduated from yesterday, and the main issue at hand is that Adobe in Flash still does not have a good way to handle touch events, nor is there any way to use ActionScript to add any touch events. Flash is dropping the ball in that regard.



Teaches Flash at university!? Where do you go, DeVry?



I would call it "taking the high road". Just my opinion, of course, but I think it's better than a point by point rebuttal when that would obviously make no difference.


is there a catch? I feel like i genuninely do not find the things i find in google.

wonder if its just the way I'm used to knowing how to search. is seldom dont find exactly what i'm looking for google. seems like it would be more a waste of time to change my workflow... hmm....


There is something to a change in workflow. I always say give it at least a week to get used to the changes. Perhaps you've already done that though. In any case, there is no "catch" so-to-speak, but I'd love to know what you are not finding. Please email me anytime.


this is one more reason to love google. they don't take themselves too seriously to allow stuff like that.


it doesn't have to be a choice.. but for most startup oriented people it will probably become one. also probably unintentionally. they end up ignoring their kids etc...

i love my job and even though it gives me a lot of freedom to spend time with my family i still sometimes get so caught up i have to remind myself to focus on the family.


basic... now with microsoft's new one who could go wrong?

i learned AWK... but then QBasic is what made me a programmer.


voted up for best title ever


fascinating because he makes an almost religious argument for absolute truth. he simply calls it objective fact.


did it with a dummy facebook. what the heck tho? no other videos.. just me... beautiful beautiful me...


i want to knot laugh... but its just hard.


by far the most interesting thing iv'e read in a long itme.


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