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> You wouldn't ask an agent to review a PR then just copy/paste the output int PR would you?

Hasn't everyone already got agents directly adding themselves to PRs and leaving comments (occasionally useful)?


They shouldn't.

I personally would never dump a claude code response into a PR body an ask someone to address it. I can't believe any developer would find this to be appropriate or fulfilling the duty of reviewing code.

I think it's pretty clear that what you should do instead is go over the result and communicate to the PR author anything you think should be addressed. You don't just say "here are 8 things you might want to address but I cant actually speak to any of them."


Indeed.

To add to this, the fact that Claude so often tries to deviate from defined architecture can be really frustrating if you're working in a mature codebase.


Yes. I sympathize with the “every PR needs human eyes on it” ethos but fundamentally the only thing that scales with AI PR generation is AI PR review.

If you are talking about AI's opening PR's then maybe you have a point. But a person opening a PR should not be met with unvetted feedback.

To be absolutely clear, AI should be used for PR review. It should be used many times. By the PR author and by all the reviewers. It should not just be piped directly from the agent to the author inside the PR. That causes the author to triage every comment.


Our 2nd year CS maths course the answer sheets were all uploaded to the server with sequential numbers so it was trivial to grab them all.

Having pilots fighting over the controls is not a situation anyone wants. The pilot monitoring saying go around should have caused an immediate reaction, the human factors behind why it didn't will probably feature prominently in the post-accident actions.

If any of the two pilots feel uncomfortable about the approach, they are actually drilled to just order a go-around, not politely ask and hint that they would prefer to do it like this FO did (wastes time). Ideally the pilot flying should then do it, but if they don't, the pilot monitoring can also take control (while clearly stating "my controls, going around") and do it. One major issue that I bet the NTSB will note in the final report is that both pilots were relatively new to the aircraft and to the airline, usually it's preferable to pair an inexperienced FO with more experienced captains.

(not an aviation expert, just summarizing various bits and pieces I gathered from various YouTubers over the last days)


Also not an expert, I wonder if there's some rule where a "Go around!" order has precedence over any other activity anyone in the cockpit wishes to perform.

As a passenger I had my first go around a few days ago, but we were 5km away from the runway.


I experienced my first go-around a few months ago, in an A321 that was landing in Tampa.

The clouds had been very thick for awhile. The plane was making those weird low-and-slow vibes that it makes on final approach.

We popped out of the clouds and there was a highway with cars! A huge parking lot! (An airport, too? Certainly, but I didn't really see a runway or any runway-adjacent stuff.) To my inexpert eyes, we just looked to be impossibly low for our location.

The folks in the cockpit apparently didn't like what they saw with their eyes, either. In an instant, the engines roared as they simultaneously pointed the thing upwards. My little pea brain was very impressed by the immediacy of the forces on my body as we disappeared back into the clouds after what was at most just several seconds of visibility.

Anyway, it was very clear that there was no hesitation to the go-around. However that decision was reached, it was then simply executed.

The next attempt went very smoothly about ten minutes later.

(The go-around can be seen here, if anyone wants to have a look at some pretty lines and maps from ADS-B: https://planefinder.net/data/flight/NK630/history/5-48596475 )


It totally does. Every approach briefing includes instructions on what they will do in the event of a missed or unstable approach. The procedure is generally full throttle, nose up, gear up, retract flaps, head in the direction briefed, and notify ATC. All automatic from memory.

When either pilot calls for a go-around, both are supposed to drop literally everything else, execute the go-around without delay or hesitation, and then pause to analyze the situation once ATC gives them a heading and altitude or holding pattern to regroup.

The only thing lost in a go-around is fuel and time. Any sane airline will never punish a call to go-around if done so in good faith.


(I fix airplanes, have been in aviation for 15 years)

Yes, it does. I can't speak universally but I would generally expect it to be a written rule, if not then at least it's the expectation.


Isn't it? Pretty sure its actually the drilled and trained commandment. If you doubt, speak up, and if that fails, take control. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_resource_management


There are a lot of things which are drilled and trained which have gone wrong in this incident.

Including the complete failure of the FO to act assertively, order a go-around, and to take the controls when it was clear the captain was not responding appropriately.

If this had happened and the captain had fought over the controls and still caused an accident, we’d be having a very different conversation. The FO would be lauded as a hero who fought to save the lives of those on the ground.


> The pilot monitoring saying go around should have caused an immediate reaction

Is there evidence that PM ever called for a go around? I mean earlier, when it would have actually been possible, not 15 seconds before the end of the flight data recording.

From what I've heard, PM stated (repeatedly) that they were too high and/or too fast, and PF was not heard to respond.


“My controls” is something every single pilot has heard since day 1 of training and has a learned, immediate response to.

The power dynamic in training is obviously very different during training where the instructor is pilot in command.

Making the assumption the PM could have taken control cleanly if the power dynamic was so poor that they weren't able to demand a go-around seems iffy, typical stabilised approach gates are 500ft in VMC, with an aircraft travelling 3nm a minute, 40 seconds before touchdown.

But as I said, the human factors involved will be a huge focus of the accident investigation.


My response was to your point about “fighting over the controls”, as if there would have been a tug of war on the yoke as the FO tried to wrest control of the plane from the captain which is nonsense.

If anything, it would have been yet one more opportunity to avert catastrophe and perform a go-around. Pilots are trained for this, and it makes less than zero sense for a PM to fail to take the controls from a PF who is flying unsafely over some imagined fear of a battle for control while the plane jostles around hurtling toward the ground. The PM is obligated to do this by every written regulation.

If you have never actually been behind the controls of an aircraft, please just stop trying to confidently assert things about this subject.


> If you have never actually _______, please just stop trying to confidently assert things about this subject.

If this site had a slogan, I think you just guessed it


> If you have never actually been behind the controls of an aircraft, please just stop trying to confidently assert things about this subject.

That's a lot of assumptions.


Your comment doesn't answer my question.

> Having pilots fighting over the controls is not a situation anyone wants

Nor crashing and killing 5 people.


Wouldn't be a case of "if I fix it then there was nothing wrong"? How do you, as an inferior rank, step in to correct something that you think is going to happen? Imagine the inferior officer steps in and lands the plane, wouldn't the superior officer say well duh that's what I was doing why did you intervene? It's an interesting conundrum, I think, and may exacerbate the reaction or lack thereof..

linked elsewhere in this thread: CRM is standard practice aboard airplanes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_resource_management

This is a completely pointless debate, because even if it's true the people who currently be benefit from copyright have far more money, power and influence than any rational argument against it.

This is a even more pointless debate, because the largest-scale trampling of copyright in human history has produced several of today's hottest tech companies.

And now the money scale has tipped towards the people who are inconvenienced by copyright.

Cloudflare interstitial pages are becoming the new cookie / GDPR pop-up for me. Remember when the internet used to be good?

Unfortunately that one's on the operators. I can complain for days about CF, but nobody is forcing the companies to default to giving everyone a managed challenge page. Some do, because either they don't care or don't realise the extra cost.

Same but they're so much worse than cookie banners...

I remember back in the days a Car Insurance website which only allowed you to use it during working hours. Never understood the mechanism, surely they weren't getting quotes live from actuaries or anything.

In my experience I've seen plenty of failures caused by user behaviour in these type of cases.

Biggest competitor goes down and all of a sudden you have a lot more traffic...


On holiday in the Florida we walked to the gated entrance to the community to ask whether delivery drivers got access or we needed to pick it up at the gate. The way they looked at us, you would think we had two heads for arriving on foot.

I got into an argument with a security guard at a gated community who tried to demand we give him a name, address, and "what's going on?" before he'd let us in.

Fixed that when I asked if he personally called 911 and when he said no, "So, before we make this a lot more formal, are you understanding that you are now obstructing emergency services personnel in the performance of duty?"


I once walked into a drive through in Texas (Galveston) with a group of scientists there for a conference (because main restaurant was closed), we almost got shot (no not really but people felt very very threatened and threatened us)!

In Florida gated communities, the standard transportation method is individual overpriced golf karts.

You should check out a Japanese show called "Old Enough!".

I have a 7 year old and a 4 year old. The 7 year old started back at school after the summer holidays and some of her friends had to be taken into class early, showed signs of having anxiety attacks and distress. While I'm slightly hypocritical here, we live on a busy road so it's not really suitable for them to go wandering alone, we do try to give them as much autonomy as we can.

I'm pretty sure the societal pressure to helicopter around children constantly is a net negative to their well-being.


> In my experience hydraulic disc brakes require less maintenance than rim brakes.

Cable operated disc brakes seem to be a sweet spot IMHO.


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